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08-20 08:09 PM
you can inform to branch manager or supervisor.
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samcam
12-11 03:40 PM
Logiclife,
I know you have done a lot for IV.. no body needs to vouch that.. i have seen you in action..but.. i disagree with you on only one thing, calling names.. I understand your frustration, but as a leader you cannot set a bad example... No leader has ever got people to do the right things by calling them names.. while your intent is right, you have done more harm than good by starting this flame war..
I guess the right thing to do for the texas chapter is to call the members and find out what happened. We have chapter members phone number right?
I myself was slated to attend the MO chapter meeting, but could not do so and I called the co-ordinator to let her know..
remember having people skills is not the same as being politically correct..
Again everything you said is right on point except for calling names.. I respect you for having done SO much till now and I believe you will raise the expectations of new comers with right actions and right words!
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I have said what I have felt. I am not going to be politically correct, never have been. This is not a forum for pracitising genteel speeches, pampering and politically correct messages.
If you RSVP that "I will come" and the host prepares entire day for meeting, makes her daughter skip the extra carricular activities, ends up using better part of weekend for an event she is thinking will be attended by you, but you dont show up even and dont even bother to call they you are cancelling, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. If you do something like that in your workplace, then you will get fired. If you signup for a volunteer training/conference on behalf of your company, get company to book your travel, make them spend time/money and then on day of travel, you dont even show up at the airport and attend conference/training that you volunteered to attend, then you will get fired. You wont get fired from Immigration Voice and there are no personal consequence to your bad, lousy manners therefore its afforable to do so, and so you can do it.
If you think EAD is the end of the road and you are free now with AC21 options BUT on the contrary you feel more and more need to visit forums here, on Khanna portal, on Murthy's forums/chats then probably you are wrong, you are not free. You are still bound by strings that restrain your mobility and freedom.
LURKERS : And finally, if the only reason (and this is the most common reason) for not volunteering or participating in activities or contributions is that you are afraid of USCIS or some agency retaliating against your pending 485, and the problem is cowardice. The most common reason why we have 3 times more "visitors" then logged in members is that "visitors" are afraid of the government in the most democratic and free country in the world. I need you to login so that I can get email and information about you so that I can seek your help. And I dont need your help for my own personal gain. I am not going to sell you used cars to send you spams and advertisements about something I am selling. I am one of you. Struggling and fighting against an unfair system. I need your email - not to sell you fortune cookies - but to ask for funds, ask you to attend local events, ask you to meet lawmakers. None of these things bring a single penny to my bank account. None of these things make my PD current. This is for you, if you think you are up for it. But if you are a coward then no one can help you. And if you are offended by being called a "coward" by me, then you are too coward to even recognize that you are a coward.
I know you have done a lot for IV.. no body needs to vouch that.. i have seen you in action..but.. i disagree with you on only one thing, calling names.. I understand your frustration, but as a leader you cannot set a bad example... No leader has ever got people to do the right things by calling them names.. while your intent is right, you have done more harm than good by starting this flame war..
I guess the right thing to do for the texas chapter is to call the members and find out what happened. We have chapter members phone number right?
I myself was slated to attend the MO chapter meeting, but could not do so and I called the co-ordinator to let her know..
remember having people skills is not the same as being politically correct..
Again everything you said is right on point except for calling names.. I respect you for having done SO much till now and I believe you will raise the expectations of new comers with right actions and right words!
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I have said what I have felt. I am not going to be politically correct, never have been. This is not a forum for pracitising genteel speeches, pampering and politically correct messages.
If you RSVP that "I will come" and the host prepares entire day for meeting, makes her daughter skip the extra carricular activities, ends up using better part of weekend for an event she is thinking will be attended by you, but you dont show up even and dont even bother to call they you are cancelling, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. If you do something like that in your workplace, then you will get fired. If you signup for a volunteer training/conference on behalf of your company, get company to book your travel, make them spend time/money and then on day of travel, you dont even show up at the airport and attend conference/training that you volunteered to attend, then you will get fired. You wont get fired from Immigration Voice and there are no personal consequence to your bad, lousy manners therefore its afforable to do so, and so you can do it.
If you think EAD is the end of the road and you are free now with AC21 options BUT on the contrary you feel more and more need to visit forums here, on Khanna portal, on Murthy's forums/chats then probably you are wrong, you are not free. You are still bound by strings that restrain your mobility and freedom.
LURKERS : And finally, if the only reason (and this is the most common reason) for not volunteering or participating in activities or contributions is that you are afraid of USCIS or some agency retaliating against your pending 485, and the problem is cowardice. The most common reason why we have 3 times more "visitors" then logged in members is that "visitors" are afraid of the government in the most democratic and free country in the world. I need you to login so that I can get email and information about you so that I can seek your help. And I dont need your help for my own personal gain. I am not going to sell you used cars to send you spams and advertisements about something I am selling. I am one of you. Struggling and fighting against an unfair system. I need your email - not to sell you fortune cookies - but to ask for funds, ask you to attend local events, ask you to meet lawmakers. None of these things bring a single penny to my bank account. None of these things make my PD current. This is for you, if you think you are up for it. But if you are a coward then no one can help you. And if you are offended by being called a "coward" by me, then you are too coward to even recognize that you are a coward.
vikramy
01-15 02:32 AM
I thought 140 can not be revoked after it has been approved. Was my understanding wrong? Can some one clarify me?
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lacrossegc
12-10 06:30 PM
Good points paskal .... mature and thoughtful
Now folks lets get back to work .... we still have a long way to go to reach our goal of 30k ... Keep up the good work and keep motivating others who may not have contributed to contribute.
Now folks lets get back to work .... we still have a long way to go to reach our goal of 30k ... Keep up the good work and keep motivating others who may not have contributed to contribute.
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nixstor
07-01 12:46 PM
Those who are just watching others call, please make the call. 200 is nothing.
If you are from Austin or SA, make that call now. It does not take more than 2 minutes.
We have meetings with Rep Smith's office(s) and all your calls will make an impact on the outcome.
If you are from Austin or SA, make that call now. It does not take more than 2 minutes.
We have meetings with Rep Smith's office(s) and all your calls will make an impact on the outcome.
jackisback
02-25 06:55 PM
Me and my wife had each sent a letter on Feb 10 to the President and the IV PO Box. I did not see my id in the names of peeps who sent a letter.
Just posting here to make sure you guys got the copies I sent you.
Maybe my letter was not considered in the total sent so far and there could be others like me.
Just a thought...
Just posting here to make sure you guys got the copies I sent you.
Maybe my letter was not considered in the total sent so far and there could be others like me.
Just a thought...
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felix31
07-27 12:14 PM
thanks guys,
I phoned my attorney asking how I can verify if this update was / was not a glitch and according to him my PD should be current for September. :eek::eek: WTF
(perhaps he has an inside person somewhere in State Department).
I also called the service center and IO confirmed it is either approval or green card itself. Since I was updating mailing address as well, we will see how long it takes for approval to reach me.
My attorney said I can do nothing (at the moment) but wait for approval as it should list Priority Date and category as well and only then can we formulate appropriate approach for rescinding / reinstatiting AOS. I have put H1B on hold as well till we get a clear answer.
:cool: what a mess...
On a side note, wife had a dream where my GC arrived nice and shiny and it was approved in an EB2 category :D:D
Weird, since I dont think I have EB2 case pending anywhere... Unless my previous employer filed I-140 under EB2...
Will update again...
I phoned my attorney asking how I can verify if this update was / was not a glitch and according to him my PD should be current for September. :eek::eek: WTF
(perhaps he has an inside person somewhere in State Department).
I also called the service center and IO confirmed it is either approval or green card itself. Since I was updating mailing address as well, we will see how long it takes for approval to reach me.
My attorney said I can do nothing (at the moment) but wait for approval as it should list Priority Date and category as well and only then can we formulate appropriate approach for rescinding / reinstatiting AOS. I have put H1B on hold as well till we get a clear answer.
:cool: what a mess...
On a side note, wife had a dream where my GC arrived nice and shiny and it was approved in an EB2 category :D:D
Weird, since I dont think I have EB2 case pending anywhere... Unless my previous employer filed I-140 under EB2...
Will update again...
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05-17 04:32 PM
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gk_2000
03-26 09:15 PM
Here I will summarize why we are unable to work with each another
Agreed 100% Porters will eat everything, there will be no movement.
By this and a later post MC is showing openly brazen attitude toward EB3 applicants. Such posts should be first of all, banned from IV and I am going to report all such posts.
Based on Visa Bulletin report, it seems like massive retrogression is likely for EB3 as well as EB2 :( for the rest of the year. Many have ported and some hibernating applications are now active. :(
You wouldn't show this :( expression if it were YOUR hibernating application. Also see if Mr. Nathan's comment below would apply to you
When I said that there should be one Item in IV agenda to Ban Porting, everyone got mad.
I still say that they should be allowed to port but should go back in line. they are disturbing the balance. I am not against them, if they were EB2 candidates why they didnt file on EB2 category at first, if now they think they are qualified then they should start new process.
BTW. they will create a big retrogression for EB2 then EB2 people have to port to EB3
Red dots are welcome.
Thanks
This is the brazen post I was talking about earlier. Even MC himself acknowledges that this post is "unhelpful", and he is deliberately doing this. This gives a negative impression of how serious this person is. I would urge him to buck up and learn to work with everyone, and quit watching "balance" from his sole viewpoint
I have done some study and can understand not many are porting. But there are few.
But if we raise our voice against porting, they will raise theirs with double the intensity against spillovers. So I dont think we should throw stones on their houses, when ours are made of glass. Moreoever if we see the statistics, there is a HUGE # of EB2 applicants in 2007 onwards I think. Unless we all act together, its not going anywhere.
I know many cases where newer applicants applied in EB2 and were much lesser in hierarchy than their bosses who are in EB3 and waiting. I think we must respect that, and more importantly as soon as raise our voice, they will not keep quite, right. You would also not keep quite if in their shoes.
Best will be if IV comes up with some programs to reduce this backlogs.
This is an "us vs them" argument. Not upto the standard desirable from IV point of view
People with EB3 applications should be allowed to port. But these should be EB3 applications which were genuinely applied and not substitute labor which opened during July 2007 fiasco.
Because a EB3 application with substitute labor in July 2007 has a priority date of 2002,2003,2004,2005 or even 2006. Where as a genuinely applied Eb2 prior to that, had the qualifications / job requirements before July 2007 and they are still waiting.
USCIS should realize their mistake in 2007, it encouraged a pay to play scheme, which is putting genuine people at great disadvantage.
Porting like any option was started with a good intention, but because of loop holes it has lost its meaning. There are people who landed in this country during the July 2007 fiasco, paid for the labor and have green cards in their hands now.
Or at least provide the same level of stringent requirements to port like (EB2-->EB1) . Technically a EB3 can port to EB1 also, but porting to EB2 is easier. That way Eb3's can consume Eb1 number and stop spill over to Eb2.
L1A is another one, where people qualify as global project managers with very minimal effort, could have less experience than a EB3 or in some cases they have reported to people in EB3 queue here from 2002 and are ahead of the EB3 within 6 months.
Understand the realities here: IV is struggling to make even the most legitimate views heard and you are sitting and talking away as if USCIS and lawmakers are your servant. Go for the ONE thing to wish for that will solve all troubles, because you have only one chance.
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
Good dialogue. Ironic how it applies to so many posts here arguing in the opposite direction
The CRAB STORY also applies to EB3. Whenever somebody talks about spillover to EB2, all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs. If porting is legit, then spillover is also legit and EB3s need to accept that.
Porting was always there and porting must not be more than 300/quarter this year (other wise EB2 PD dates would have retrogressed or gone back). Porting was not something started in FY2011 or FY2010. However, I do accept that the frequency of EB3-EB2 porting has increased slightly due to more US companies outsourcing IT jobs (bad economy -> more outsourcing to reduce costs{check the stock of CTSH!} -> demand for consultants -> resulting in firms like CTSH and small consulting companies agreeing to EB3-EB2 porting to keep talent). Outsourcing will not always result in all the US jobs to completely move to outsourced countries (I guess smart people in this forum already know that).
There will be spillover this year and EB2 PD reaching DEC 2006 by end of FY2011 is a real possiblity. There is no need for EB2s to get all worked up when somebody ports or EB3s to get worked up when somebody talks about spillover. There is GC pie for everybody. Just be patient or do something to solve fundamental problems with GC process ( by participating in IV campaign).
-CinBoy
"all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs."
are you yourself convinced of this? I highly doubt.
Agreed 100% Porters will eat everything, there will be no movement.
By this and a later post MC is showing openly brazen attitude toward EB3 applicants. Such posts should be first of all, banned from IV and I am going to report all such posts.
Based on Visa Bulletin report, it seems like massive retrogression is likely for EB3 as well as EB2 :( for the rest of the year. Many have ported and some hibernating applications are now active. :(
You wouldn't show this :( expression if it were YOUR hibernating application. Also see if Mr. Nathan's comment below would apply to you
When I said that there should be one Item in IV agenda to Ban Porting, everyone got mad.
I still say that they should be allowed to port but should go back in line. they are disturbing the balance. I am not against them, if they were EB2 candidates why they didnt file on EB2 category at first, if now they think they are qualified then they should start new process.
BTW. they will create a big retrogression for EB2 then EB2 people have to port to EB3
Red dots are welcome.
Thanks
This is the brazen post I was talking about earlier. Even MC himself acknowledges that this post is "unhelpful", and he is deliberately doing this. This gives a negative impression of how serious this person is. I would urge him to buck up and learn to work with everyone, and quit watching "balance" from his sole viewpoint
I have done some study and can understand not many are porting. But there are few.
But if we raise our voice against porting, they will raise theirs with double the intensity against spillovers. So I dont think we should throw stones on their houses, when ours are made of glass. Moreoever if we see the statistics, there is a HUGE # of EB2 applicants in 2007 onwards I think. Unless we all act together, its not going anywhere.
I know many cases where newer applicants applied in EB2 and were much lesser in hierarchy than their bosses who are in EB3 and waiting. I think we must respect that, and more importantly as soon as raise our voice, they will not keep quite, right. You would also not keep quite if in their shoes.
Best will be if IV comes up with some programs to reduce this backlogs.
This is an "us vs them" argument. Not upto the standard desirable from IV point of view
People with EB3 applications should be allowed to port. But these should be EB3 applications which were genuinely applied and not substitute labor which opened during July 2007 fiasco.
Because a EB3 application with substitute labor in July 2007 has a priority date of 2002,2003,2004,2005 or even 2006. Where as a genuinely applied Eb2 prior to that, had the qualifications / job requirements before July 2007 and they are still waiting.
USCIS should realize their mistake in 2007, it encouraged a pay to play scheme, which is putting genuine people at great disadvantage.
Porting like any option was started with a good intention, but because of loop holes it has lost its meaning. There are people who landed in this country during the July 2007 fiasco, paid for the labor and have green cards in their hands now.
Or at least provide the same level of stringent requirements to port like (EB2-->EB1) . Technically a EB3 can port to EB1 also, but porting to EB2 is easier. That way Eb3's can consume Eb1 number and stop spill over to Eb2.
L1A is another one, where people qualify as global project managers with very minimal effort, could have less experience than a EB3 or in some cases they have reported to people in EB3 queue here from 2002 and are ahead of the EB3 within 6 months.
Understand the realities here: IV is struggling to make even the most legitimate views heard and you are sitting and talking away as if USCIS and lawmakers are your servant. Go for the ONE thing to wish for that will solve all troubles, because you have only one chance.
You wont talk about this crap/crab if you are on the receiving end.
Good dialogue. Ironic how it applies to so many posts here arguing in the opposite direction
The CRAB STORY also applies to EB3. Whenever somebody talks about spillover to EB2, all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs. If porting is legit, then spillover is also legit and EB3s need to accept that.
Porting was always there and porting must not be more than 300/quarter this year (other wise EB2 PD dates would have retrogressed or gone back). Porting was not something started in FY2011 or FY2010. However, I do accept that the frequency of EB3-EB2 porting has increased slightly due to more US companies outsourcing IT jobs (bad economy -> more outsourcing to reduce costs{check the stock of CTSH!} -> demand for consultants -> resulting in firms like CTSH and small consulting companies agreeing to EB3-EB2 porting to keep talent). Outsourcing will not always result in all the US jobs to completely move to outsourced countries (I guess smart people in this forum already know that).
There will be spillover this year and EB2 PD reaching DEC 2006 by end of FY2011 is a real possiblity. There is no need for EB2s to get all worked up when somebody ports or EB3s to get worked up when somebody talks about spillover. There is GC pie for everybody. Just be patient or do something to solve fundamental problems with GC process ( by participating in IV campaign).
-CinBoy
"all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs."
are you yourself convinced of this? I highly doubt.
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harsh
03-17 11:11 AM
The option to file 485 after labor approval before priority dates become current is not present. It is not present in specter's bill either. It was present in S.1932 but current bills do not have that provision. I hope someone brings in an amendment to include this feature. This would help greatly for most of us.
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kate123
02-16 09:21 AM
desi3933,
I didnt meant to ignore you. I was kind of busy yesterday so I couldnt reply to your message. Thanks a lot for correcting me and interpreting the text properly.
well I guess we are back to sqaure one.
Even though it can be legislative fix can we still have an action item? well... I dont know!
So far kate123 has not responded to my post. May be because reply was something he wasn't looking for .....
I didnt meant to ignore you. I was kind of busy yesterday so I couldnt reply to your message. Thanks a lot for correcting me and interpreting the text properly.
well I guess we are back to sqaure one.
Even though it can be legislative fix can we still have an action item? well... I dont know!
So far kate123 has not responded to my post. May be because reply was something he wasn't looking for .....
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needhelp!
03-05 02:32 PM
Still puzzled and wondering why they would ask about PD.
Is this something we have to fill out on the AOS application?
I know it is not always the labor filing date, it can be the I-140 filing date if someone didn't require labor cert.
But, do we fill this date out on 485 app and is it entered into their system?
Is this something we have to fill out on the AOS application?
I know it is not always the labor filing date, it can be the I-140 filing date if someone didn't require labor cert.
But, do we fill this date out on 485 app and is it entered into their system?
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starscream
05-31 03:49 PM
As per member priderock's post the LAY ON THE TABLE description from THOMAS means that the Cantwell AMDT has been killed .
But then why is AILA saying this on their post : http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=22481
One amendment that has been “filed,” but is not currently “pending” is the Cantwell amendment which is very important to business immigration interests. We do not know at this time what will happen with this amendment – whether it will come to the floor for debate or be negotiated through unanimous consent into the final package.
From AILA's description it would seem that the Amendment is does not have the status "lie on the table" as that would mean that the amendment has been killed with no possibility of coming up but AILA's description as to possible future of the amendment is to the contrary.
But then why is AILA saying this on their post : http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=22481
One amendment that has been “filed,” but is not currently “pending” is the Cantwell amendment which is very important to business immigration interests. We do not know at this time what will happen with this amendment – whether it will come to the floor for debate or be negotiated through unanimous consent into the final package.
From AILA's description it would seem that the Amendment is does not have the status "lie on the table" as that would mean that the amendment has been killed with no possibility of coming up but AILA's description as to possible future of the amendment is to the contrary.
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naveenarjun
05-31 03:07 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
where does it say that this amendment has been ordered to lie on the table..can u please post the link.. I am looking at the amendments page and there is nothing of that sort...
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
where does it say that this amendment has been ordered to lie on the table..can u please post the link.. I am looking at the amendments page and there is nothing of that sort...
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Billboard
05-11 11:13 AM
This is also the case with me...
I485 Approved (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/2167486-i485-approved-when-pd-not-current.html#post2583198)
I485 Approved (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/2167486-i485-approved-when-pd-not-current.html#post2583198)
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06-26 03:10 PM
Called up the office and conveyed the message.
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05-20 01:58 PM
As the MD State Chapter Leader I urge the DC/MD/VA Members to make our presence felt and lead this effort.
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naushit
11-18 09:55 AM
Well, If you sign up for IV credit card, the contributor is not paying from his pocket. It's the bank, who is paying for him, and contributor will keep earning miles/reward point as with any other credit card so it should make ZERO difference for card holder.
Its like finding a advertising sponsor for any of the IV event,except this is one time effort.
the earning could be huge. lets do simple math.
Average CC monthly bill = $1000 , 2% of $1000= $20.
20 * 20k = 40K monthly contribution.
Now think how hard is it to raise 40K monthly using our regular fund raising ?
Basic problem with fund raising is, once person gets his EAD/GC , he stops visiting IV website, I am sure he/she still supports the cause by heart but it just happens that he does not visit this site and does not notice our fund raising drive ( and as a result, we call them selfish :p) .
But if he is carrying IV credit card , its very easy for him to pick up that CC and swipe every time he makes purchase and support the cause.
Hope you get an idea :).
-Naushit.
Its like finding a advertising sponsor for any of the IV event,except this is one time effort.
the earning could be huge. lets do simple math.
Average CC monthly bill = $1000 , 2% of $1000= $20.
20 * 20k = 40K monthly contribution.
Now think how hard is it to raise 40K monthly using our regular fund raising ?
Basic problem with fund raising is, once person gets his EAD/GC , he stops visiting IV website, I am sure he/she still supports the cause by heart but it just happens that he does not visit this site and does not notice our fund raising drive ( and as a result, we call them selfish :p) .
But if he is carrying IV credit card , its very easy for him to pick up that CC and swipe every time he makes purchase and support the cause.
Hope you get an idea :).
-Naushit.
abhisec
07-15 03:47 PM
I guess they are very low in numbers. Thats why they moved the PD to 2006.
Again when I say low , it could be low number of ripe cases.
I'm one them - see my sig. Waiting for NSC to process my case :mad:
Again when I say low , it could be low number of ripe cases.
I'm one them - see my sig. Waiting for NSC to process my case :mad:
yabadaba
07-17 08:38 PM
hahaha. i also remember one guy telling everyone on this bbs to not file till July 29, so the PDs remain current for August. some one later found out by reading his old posts that he had already filed his 485 :eek:
that guy was classic.. with a poll and everything..hahahaha
that guy was classic.. with a poll and everything..hahahaha
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