kris04
09-12 09:45 PM
sorry to hear about your new issue. Your case can be easily fought back, cheer up. My case was AC 21 and fortunately my I 485 was approved last month without any RFE, but before approval I spoke to NSC customer service and got hold off a very good guy , who happened to be very helpful, he mentioned that the letter requesting to port the employer or change of attorney need to be addressed to appropriate division, failure to do will cause all these problems, since it take time for the USCIS to route the letter to correct division and most likely getting lost. The only solution to address this kind of problem is to bring the much needed regulation to AC 21 , a formal application process where we can track the progress.
Cheer up, good luck
regards
kris
I never understood until this point how come a letter requesting to port job using AC 21 in most cases never reach the file, whereas the letter requesting to revoke I 140 from employers are getting processed in 99% of the case. maybe its an excuse to get rid of some of the backlog :confused::confused:
Cheer up, good luck
regards
kris
I never understood until this point how come a letter requesting to port job using AC 21 in most cases never reach the file, whereas the letter requesting to revoke I 140 from employers are getting processed in 99% of the case. maybe its an excuse to get rid of some of the backlog :confused::confused:
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sanju
09-13 01:15 AM
Just to add, Not sure if this is true but there is news that Sarah Palin cheated on her husband, and had a relationship with the business partner of her husband. If this is true, then it would imply that she is not a good mother, she not a good wife and she is cunning & opportunist politician, with very little experience and a heartbeat away from her finger on the nuclear button when she is ready to go to war with Russia. Watch some 'Sarah Palin' youtube videos and see for yourself.
Now please don't call this "deep sexism", did anyone see Dick Morris around?
There is something about politicians who cannot pronounce the word "nuclear" properly. They all seem to somehow become Presidents. Maybe we should start pronouncing the word "nuclear" differently, it may help us to us to become president. :D
Now please don't call this "deep sexism", did anyone see Dick Morris around?
There is something about politicians who cannot pronounce the word "nuclear" properly. They all seem to somehow become Presidents. Maybe we should start pronouncing the word "nuclear" differently, it may help us to us to become president. :D
GCard_Dream
03-21 11:16 AM
Great post. Couldn't agree with you more.
The more I read this form, the more I become disgruntled with this community! To say that someone from a lower class of visa and not from an "Oversubscribed country" (and I am assuming you mean India) is less skilled and less deserving than someone from a higher class and oversubscribed country is ludicrous to say the least. Each and everyone of us (and I mean "legal immigrants") have our own skill sets and contribute equally to the American society. As long as we are competent at what we do, then we are all SKILLED in our own way. The only real defining difference among the visa classes is the level of education not skill. To suggest one is better based on education alone is arrogance and nothing else!
The U.S. immigration system is not without its flaws and despite the delays and frustrations, it is FAIR! The per country limit is to ensure that citizens of ALL nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and not just a select few. The only thing that I have found unfair as far as immigration in this country is concerned is the politicians focused efforts to do something for the "illegal" immigrants at the expense of the "legal" immigrants.
We are all in this together and the insults and innuendos that dominate this forum divide us so let's stop them and focus on the real issues!
The more I read this form, the more I become disgruntled with this community! To say that someone from a lower class of visa and not from an "Oversubscribed country" (and I am assuming you mean India) is less skilled and less deserving than someone from a higher class and oversubscribed country is ludicrous to say the least. Each and everyone of us (and I mean "legal immigrants") have our own skill sets and contribute equally to the American society. As long as we are competent at what we do, then we are all SKILLED in our own way. The only real defining difference among the visa classes is the level of education not skill. To suggest one is better based on education alone is arrogance and nothing else!
The U.S. immigration system is not without its flaws and despite the delays and frustrations, it is FAIR! The per country limit is to ensure that citizens of ALL nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and not just a select few. The only thing that I have found unfair as far as immigration in this country is concerned is the politicians focused efforts to do something for the "illegal" immigrants at the expense of the "legal" immigrants.
We are all in this together and the insults and innuendos that dominate this forum divide us so let's stop them and focus on the real issues!
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harsh
12-24 05:09 PM
I know the reason for issuing H4 visa is to be with the primary H1B. Therefore i can understand why some people will say that is why H4 are not allowed to work. But the reality is that for all other employement based visas or immigrant visas there is only 1 primary applicant. Like when you get AD after 485 stage, your spouse also gets AD. Also L2 visa holders who are dependents of L1 visa holders get work permits. Its only the H4 visa holder who do not get work permits. It beats me why in the world law makers did not allow work permits for H4 when they allow work permits for L2 and give EAD cars for spouses during 485 stage.
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alterego
12-01 10:17 PM
The intent of this thread is good. There are however practical considerations.
Many of us are from India. In the era pre opening up its economy, we had many well educated folks unable to get jobs there. The socialist strangle was such that highly educated people had no suitable jobs and private enterprise was actively discouraged. Many sought economic and professional refuge in more capitalist economies and to some extent we are still seeing the spillover from the policies of that era, with an excess supply of human skilled capital there and opportunities still not able to spread to the whole economy/population.
The reason I am saying all this is, investing in skills like masters etc is generally a good thing, but not always. In fact there are many studies to prove this point, some demonstrate that too much education is a negative predictor of economic success.
In our situation, capital is important, whereever we end up. Since in a capitalist model money works for you, and obviously if you have enough of it then you can spend your time doing other things, charity work or whatever warms your heart. Doing an MBA or any other higher education is very expensive in america. It is an investment. If you end up here, it will perhaps turn out to be a good investment, otherwise it will be of limited use to us especially in India, especially if a global recession hits.
Pessimistic you say, lets reserve judgement on that and consider all of the geo political issues going on right now.
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
Many of us are from India. In the era pre opening up its economy, we had many well educated folks unable to get jobs there. The socialist strangle was such that highly educated people had no suitable jobs and private enterprise was actively discouraged. Many sought economic and professional refuge in more capitalist economies and to some extent we are still seeing the spillover from the policies of that era, with an excess supply of human skilled capital there and opportunities still not able to spread to the whole economy/population.
The reason I am saying all this is, investing in skills like masters etc is generally a good thing, but not always. In fact there are many studies to prove this point, some demonstrate that too much education is a negative predictor of economic success.
In our situation, capital is important, whereever we end up. Since in a capitalist model money works for you, and obviously if you have enough of it then you can spend your time doing other things, charity work or whatever warms your heart. Doing an MBA or any other higher education is very expensive in america. It is an investment. If you end up here, it will perhaps turn out to be a good investment, otherwise it will be of limited use to us especially in India, especially if a global recession hits.
Pessimistic you say, lets reserve judgement on that and consider all of the geo political issues going on right now.
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
coopheal
06-23 04:58 PM
Called, the lady said she was handling immigration issues for the congress man. She took the message about supporting the immigration bills. She just asked my name; and was very supportive during call.
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GC_Fever
06-28 09:43 PM
I and my wife got our approved EADs in our hand in 17 days (Mailing day to USCIS to recevied date by us). Only strange thing is that my EAD is valid from 06/2008 to 06/2009. I thought the new EADs validity would begin when the existing expires. My existing EAD expires on 09/19/2008. I lost 3 months with this renewal.
How can anyone explain this now? Isn't it a money scheme? Is it reasonable to loose 3 months when you had already paid for it? There is always confusion in this whole GC affair. There seems no option than to live with it and move forward.
How can anyone explain this now? Isn't it a money scheme? Is it reasonable to loose 3 months when you had already paid for it? There is always confusion in this whole GC affair. There seems no option than to live with it and move forward.
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learning01
03-17 04:44 PM
Frist Immigration Bill Would Target Bosses
By SUZANNE GAMBOA, The Associated Press, Friday, March 17, 2006; 5:28 PM
From WaPo online:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/17/AR2006031701455.html
... Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., faulted Frist's bill for not addressing what to do with illegal immigrants already in the U.S. "Countless businesses rely heavily on their labor and it's long past time to provide legal avenues to bring this underground economy out of the shadow," he said.
...More than double the number of employment-based green cards, from 140,000 to 290,000, and make more employment based visas available to unskilled workers. It also would free up other visas by exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from being counted in the annual pool of 480,000 visas, and increase country-by-country ceilings on family sponsored and employment-based immigrants.
By SUZANNE GAMBOA, The Associated Press, Friday, March 17, 2006; 5:28 PM
From WaPo online:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/17/AR2006031701455.html
... Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., faulted Frist's bill for not addressing what to do with illegal immigrants already in the U.S. "Countless businesses rely heavily on their labor and it's long past time to provide legal avenues to bring this underground economy out of the shadow," he said.
...More than double the number of employment-based green cards, from 140,000 to 290,000, and make more employment based visas available to unskilled workers. It also would free up other visas by exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from being counted in the annual pool of 480,000 visas, and increase country-by-country ceilings on family sponsored and employment-based immigrants.
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Tito_ortiz
12-01 11:04 AM
Ah, ah. You just gave a very good suggestion. One of us should dress like Gandhi. That would be a peaceful way to bring attention to our cause. I can see that.
Any thin, bald and friendly Indian fellow out there could volunteer ?
Also, the fellow who suggested the free MATH tutoring, SAT, GMAT/GRE is a genius !! That could be a very creative and peaceful way to protest !
Good thread !!
There are two things we can do to fight for devil of Retrogression. Similarly Mahata Ganghi did for Independence
1. Release stress, frustration, negativity encounter to all of us due to retrogression. Positive points are highlighed in this thread by many friends. Mahatma Gandhi also did the same to overcome enger, frustration of millions of people.
2. Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
This is just my thought !!! I am not sure every one like it or not. When MLK Jr inspired by Gandhi philosophy and made revolution, why can't we?
Any thin, bald and friendly Indian fellow out there could volunteer ?
Also, the fellow who suggested the free MATH tutoring, SAT, GMAT/GRE is a genius !! That could be a very creative and peaceful way to protest !
Good thread !!
There are two things we can do to fight for devil of Retrogression. Similarly Mahata Ganghi did for Independence
1. Release stress, frustration, negativity encounter to all of us due to retrogression. Positive points are highlighed in this thread by many friends. Mahatma Gandhi also did the same to overcome enger, frustration of millions of people.
2. Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
This is just my thought !!! I am not sure every one like it or not. When MLK Jr inspired by Gandhi philosophy and made revolution, why can't we?
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09-11 04:19 PM
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logiclife
09-19 07:00 PM
If we support DREAM act, they will support SKIL bill.
Who are they?, they do not have any voice or vote anywhere. They are ILLEGAL, they broke the law.
Are you kidding me? You think that undocumented are not represented in Washington? You think that DREAM act has no sponsors?
Well, I have news for you. Durbin and 2 other senators are going to try to add DREAM to DoD appropriations bill this week. It may not pass but it doesnt mean that there are no supporters or sponsors of DREAM, AgJobs etc. Every single component of CIR has a champion in congress.
Who are they?, they do not have any voice or vote anywhere. They are ILLEGAL, they broke the law.
Are you kidding me? You think that undocumented are not represented in Washington? You think that DREAM act has no sponsors?
Well, I have news for you. Durbin and 2 other senators are going to try to add DREAM to DoD appropriations bill this week. It may not pass but it doesnt mean that there are no supporters or sponsors of DREAM, AgJobs etc. Every single component of CIR has a champion in congress.
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hebron
06-15 07:05 AM
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
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starscream
06-19 03:14 PM
CIR is to be read in the Senate Calendar tomorrow as S 1639
Bill text:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
Bill text:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
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indianindian2006
07-03 08:35 PM
The SKIL bill was introduced in the Senate in May by Senator John
Cornyn (R-
TX) and was subsequently incorporated into the Comprehensive
Immigration Act
of 2006. We discussed its effects on the H-1B and EB categories in the
June
2006 issue of SHUSTERMAN'S IMMIGRATION UPDATE. See
http://shusterman.com/toc-siu.html
Although the legalization and guest worker provisions of the Senate
bill
have been written off by many pundits, we believe that there is an
excellent
chance that some version of the SKIL bill will be enacted into law
before the
end of 2006.
Cornyn (R-
TX) and was subsequently incorporated into the Comprehensive
Immigration Act
of 2006. We discussed its effects on the H-1B and EB categories in the
June
2006 issue of SHUSTERMAN'S IMMIGRATION UPDATE. See
http://shusterman.com/toc-siu.html
Although the legalization and guest worker provisions of the Senate
bill
have been written off by many pundits, we believe that there is an
excellent
chance that some version of the SKIL bill will be enacted into law
before the
end of 2006.
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piyushpan
03-22 11:42 PM
Hi stucklabor,
That was a good analysis.
So to summarize what you are saying is the following(as per Frist's bill)
1 People who have advanced degrees and are presently working can apply for adjustment of status(I-485) even if they don;t have a labor or a pending I-140 but they will be subject to quota to get the final approval.
2Secondly for people who are presently studying and doing their MS they can directly apply for I-485 if they have a US job offer within one year after graduation but they will be subject to quota as well
3Thirdly there is the category which has MS/Phd and 3 yrs of related exp.
For this category they can directly apply for I-485 and no quota issues either.
My question is for all these 3 categories can you really directly apply for I-140 and I485 concurrently or do you have to have a certified labor certification or pending I-140 at the time of enact ment of the bill.
I am asking because i have an approved perm labor and I-140 and waiting to file for I-485..but my company is not doing well so i may have to restart the process all over again in the new company i join.But if i have to file only I-140 and I-485 to get the GC in new company and if this bill becomes law then that would be amazing as i don;t have to go through the labor cert process anymore..
Can you confirm what i'm interpreting is correct?
Your interpretation is incorrect. An advanced degree holder from the US will not need labor certification. Please go through my and Appu's reasoning in earlier posts on this thread to understand why.
Per Frist's bill, an advanced degree holder in STEM with 3 years experience will be subject to special handling in labor cert. Your (iii) refers to this person. This person is not subject to the numerical quota.
An advanced STEM degree holder from the US does not need labor cert. This is because notwithstanding the applicant's admissiblity for permanent residence, the applicant can file for adjustment of status as long as he has an immigrant petition. "Applicant's admissibility for permanent residency" refers to labor cert for EB 2/3 workers - see section 212 of INA. So irrespective of labor cert, the advanced STEM degree holder from the US can file for Adjustment of Status and I140. However, this person is subject to numerical quota and has to wait for a green card number for 485 approval.
Put both the above paragraphs together - the advanced STEM degree holder from the US with 3 years experience has the best of both worlds - no labor cert, no quota, can file for I140 and I48.
That was a good analysis.
So to summarize what you are saying is the following(as per Frist's bill)
1 People who have advanced degrees and are presently working can apply for adjustment of status(I-485) even if they don;t have a labor or a pending I-140 but they will be subject to quota to get the final approval.
2Secondly for people who are presently studying and doing their MS they can directly apply for I-485 if they have a US job offer within one year after graduation but they will be subject to quota as well
3Thirdly there is the category which has MS/Phd and 3 yrs of related exp.
For this category they can directly apply for I-485 and no quota issues either.
My question is for all these 3 categories can you really directly apply for I-140 and I485 concurrently or do you have to have a certified labor certification or pending I-140 at the time of enact ment of the bill.
I am asking because i have an approved perm labor and I-140 and waiting to file for I-485..but my company is not doing well so i may have to restart the process all over again in the new company i join.But if i have to file only I-140 and I-485 to get the GC in new company and if this bill becomes law then that would be amazing as i don;t have to go through the labor cert process anymore..
Can you confirm what i'm interpreting is correct?
Your interpretation is incorrect. An advanced degree holder from the US will not need labor certification. Please go through my and Appu's reasoning in earlier posts on this thread to understand why.
Per Frist's bill, an advanced degree holder in STEM with 3 years experience will be subject to special handling in labor cert. Your (iii) refers to this person. This person is not subject to the numerical quota.
An advanced STEM degree holder from the US does not need labor cert. This is because notwithstanding the applicant's admissiblity for permanent residence, the applicant can file for adjustment of status as long as he has an immigrant petition. "Applicant's admissibility for permanent residency" refers to labor cert for EB 2/3 workers - see section 212 of INA. So irrespective of labor cert, the advanced STEM degree holder from the US can file for Adjustment of Status and I140. However, this person is subject to numerical quota and has to wait for a green card number for 485 approval.
Put both the above paragraphs together - the advanced STEM degree holder from the US with 3 years experience has the best of both worlds - no labor cert, no quota, can file for I140 and I48.
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Tito_ortiz
12-01 02:34 PM
From talking to dozens of people I have met in my MBA program, including folks from MIT, Harvard, etc my lesson tells me this:
If you work in financing or executive positions - for example if you plan to work as a financial analyst at Wall Street - then yes, it makes sense investing in schools which are highly ranked.
For those of us coming from IT related positions and now aspiring to move into project management roles, even IT directorship or CTO position, then ranks become very, very irrelevant. I agree at that point a good MS in information management or MS in telecommunications would be a better deal followed by inexpensive PMP type of courses which you could pay from your own pocket.
If you get an MBA from Sloan or Wharton or Harvard or Berkeley, nothing like it. I know of few people who have not done very well after getting MBAs from these schools. If you want to continue writing comp. programs, then of course there is no need for it. But how many people want to do it forever?
But I agree with Tito to some extent. Especially, if the degree is from even a slightly lower ranked school like Arizona or Northwestern, the returns are not there, and there is a great deal of evidence in that direction.
Having actually studied this data (and being in the business of teaching) gives me some perspective.
But it's still just my 2 cents.
If you work in financing or executive positions - for example if you plan to work as a financial analyst at Wall Street - then yes, it makes sense investing in schools which are highly ranked.
For those of us coming from IT related positions and now aspiring to move into project management roles, even IT directorship or CTO position, then ranks become very, very irrelevant. I agree at that point a good MS in information management or MS in telecommunications would be a better deal followed by inexpensive PMP type of courses which you could pay from your own pocket.
If you get an MBA from Sloan or Wharton or Harvard or Berkeley, nothing like it. I know of few people who have not done very well after getting MBAs from these schools. If you want to continue writing comp. programs, then of course there is no need for it. But how many people want to do it forever?
But I agree with Tito to some extent. Especially, if the degree is from even a slightly lower ranked school like Arizona or Northwestern, the returns are not there, and there is a great deal of evidence in that direction.
Having actually studied this data (and being in the business of teaching) gives me some perspective.
But it's still just my 2 cents.
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conchshell
07-09 04:09 PM
Alongwith permission for H4 to work, there are several other problems that legal immigrants face in USA. However, lets face it ... its always a small set of people who are fighting for their green cards. After a prolonged wait, once they get the GC, they move on with their life, forgetting their own ordeal in the past, and ignoring the future problems of fresh GC aspirants in the queue.
Even the fresh GC aspirants who come to USA on H1/L1 visa, do not understand the importance of staying on top of their GC application and start organizing themselves. Mostly they realize the gravity of situation couple of year after their arrival, and start venting their anger and frustation on immigration forum like this.
A majority of immigrants think that the immigration doors should shut down immediately after they get their GC's. This transformation takes place overnight. I have never heard that from such a large population of immigrants who are settled in USA, anyone ever raised their voice supporting the legal immigration.
Lets face it ... its an unjust world ... we have lots of problems as far as legal immigration is concerned. But how many of us who are boiling with frustation here, will ever work and spend our time and energy on immigration related issues once we get the green card/citizenship?
BTW, I am just throwing some light on the basic root cause of this problem... no war of words please ... just peace.
Even the fresh GC aspirants who come to USA on H1/L1 visa, do not understand the importance of staying on top of their GC application and start organizing themselves. Mostly they realize the gravity of situation couple of year after their arrival, and start venting their anger and frustation on immigration forum like this.
A majority of immigrants think that the immigration doors should shut down immediately after they get their GC's. This transformation takes place overnight. I have never heard that from such a large population of immigrants who are settled in USA, anyone ever raised their voice supporting the legal immigration.
Lets face it ... its an unjust world ... we have lots of problems as far as legal immigration is concerned. But how many of us who are boiling with frustation here, will ever work and spend our time and energy on immigration related issues once we get the green card/citizenship?
BTW, I am just throwing some light on the basic root cause of this problem... no war of words please ... just peace.
sundevil
06-20 10:40 AM
That is true!
As for fee increases big companies do not really get hurt, if they need someone and it costs 5K, in their grand scheme of things its not a big number.
Also I am not sure why people assume Big tech Companies want only H1Bs, thats not true, I have had interactions with various levels where they hate having to go through all these attorneys every H1B renewal and ambiguity about their employees traveling. Ideally they would like to get their employees a GC right after they go through PERM. My group had to withdraw 2 offers for Master's students because they won't be able to get H1b till Oct'2008, and we were not looking for just H1B/F-1 employees, but any fresh Grads.
As for GC numbers, H1B cap of 65K was somewhat of a sweet spot for 140K available. Considering not 100% of H1B's apply, but there are other non H1B EB GC applications. So if we club all these and still keep the number to approx 65K and add dependent factor, this 65K*2.X translates close to 140K. Now increase these to 115K and keep the numbers at 140K and no spill overs from ROW for the Point System. Viola!! We have log jam worse than LA freeways, only now some of the cars will never get to their destination.
With lot of consulting people applying for EAD's and getting GCs, they will not be willing to part their hard earned $s. Not implementing H1 restrictions will give a chance to get fresh meat for these blood sucking so called consulting companies, only this time it could be bonded slaves with GCs not in sight.
Ideally we would like to have all these consultant needing companies start hiring permanent employees and put most of the ill intentioned body shoppers out of business. But with this bill these BS(Body shop) Co will find some loop hole(and trust me, Find it they will) and get lifetime slaves through H1B and suck half their earnings rest of the poor souls life. We are scared of the wrong thing, H1B restrictions, instead of worrying about how trapped and helpless thousands of people will be in clutches of these companies. I would rather these people enjoy the freedom and prosperity of India and China, than living uncertain life here and feeding the Leaches of the system.
And everyone is wondering why they are not fighting these H1 restrictions. They wont, this bill is great for them. Its not their 5K for H1, and it comes with hand-cuffs and shackles.
There, I poured my passions out about this issue. Phew :rolleyes:
You will be surprised that even with the restrictions H1b cap will be reached but not in one day or one month but within an year as demand will be there. These restrictions will impact only Indian bodyshoppers who are running just by H1b. Though H1b will be costly if CIR in the same form is passed but Most of good companies will overcome. So if you want to relative number of gc then you need to increase Gc by atleast 50 to 100% from current level.
As for fee increases big companies do not really get hurt, if they need someone and it costs 5K, in their grand scheme of things its not a big number.
Also I am not sure why people assume Big tech Companies want only H1Bs, thats not true, I have had interactions with various levels where they hate having to go through all these attorneys every H1B renewal and ambiguity about their employees traveling. Ideally they would like to get their employees a GC right after they go through PERM. My group had to withdraw 2 offers for Master's students because they won't be able to get H1b till Oct'2008, and we were not looking for just H1B/F-1 employees, but any fresh Grads.
As for GC numbers, H1B cap of 65K was somewhat of a sweet spot for 140K available. Considering not 100% of H1B's apply, but there are other non H1B EB GC applications. So if we club all these and still keep the number to approx 65K and add dependent factor, this 65K*2.X translates close to 140K. Now increase these to 115K and keep the numbers at 140K and no spill overs from ROW for the Point System. Viola!! We have log jam worse than LA freeways, only now some of the cars will never get to their destination.
With lot of consulting people applying for EAD's and getting GCs, they will not be willing to part their hard earned $s. Not implementing H1 restrictions will give a chance to get fresh meat for these blood sucking so called consulting companies, only this time it could be bonded slaves with GCs not in sight.
Ideally we would like to have all these consultant needing companies start hiring permanent employees and put most of the ill intentioned body shoppers out of business. But with this bill these BS(Body shop) Co will find some loop hole(and trust me, Find it they will) and get lifetime slaves through H1B and suck half their earnings rest of the poor souls life. We are scared of the wrong thing, H1B restrictions, instead of worrying about how trapped and helpless thousands of people will be in clutches of these companies. I would rather these people enjoy the freedom and prosperity of India and China, than living uncertain life here and feeding the Leaches of the system.
And everyone is wondering why they are not fighting these H1 restrictions. They wont, this bill is great for them. Its not their 5K for H1, and it comes with hand-cuffs and shackles.
There, I poured my passions out about this issue. Phew :rolleyes:
You will be surprised that even with the restrictions H1b cap will be reached but not in one day or one month but within an year as demand will be there. These restrictions will impact only Indian bodyshoppers who are running just by H1b. Though H1b will be costly if CIR in the same form is passed but Most of good companies will overcome. So if you want to relative number of gc then you need to increase Gc by atleast 50 to 100% from current level.
jambapamba
07-18 07:44 AM
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
oh god...people stuck at BEC are compared to people "stuck" in afghanistan/africa. Dont understand what they are stuck for... :o
I'm a June filer, and this July thing will hit me too, but I still congratulate those July filers. So what? I understand that we will start getting our EADs in a year (so we would be applying for next EAD once we got current one). I understand that USCIS officers will be irritated and pissed, they will be under tons of application and everybody will be calling and bugging them. So? I realize that it maybe will take 3-4 years for us to get GC. So? I realize that DOS might retrogress now dates for many years on Oct, and will not do the same stupid mistake as making dates current and unleashing the voluntary slaves. So?
Today was little tiny success and it was day of tiny celebration. There is day for complaining and there is day for celebration.
oh god...people stuck at BEC are compared to people "stuck" in afghanistan/africa. Dont understand what they are stuck for... :o
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