
walking_dude
10-05 08:12 PM
It's important to hold the meeting soon as IV core is planning major actions in the coming days. It's highly critical to get organized ASAP without any further delay. There'll be future meetings soon, if there are major actions planned in coming days. Those who miss the event (due to unavoidable circumstances) can attend future meetings which can be held in Farmington Hills, Novi, Flint etc. based on participation.
I have no issues driving to Novi, Farmington Hills, Novi or Lansing for that matter. When I can go all the way to DC, I can drive anywhere in MI to attend the meeting. The idea behind choosing Troy is that majority of participants need not travel long distance to accomodate one or two members. As of now majority is from Oakland County. If it turns out that majority is from Lansing, Flint, Canton... wherever, I'll drive down there.
There's no need to feel left out if any are from far off places (Lansing etc.) and can't drive down to Troy. You can participate by calling the cell numbers of the participants (if any of you PM me, I can give mine). However, members living nearby need to appear in person (cell-phone participation will not be entertained)
I live in Lansing. However, I am out of town on 10/20. Can we have another option if it is not too much hassle for all of you?
Another note- Troy will be very far for people in Lansing, Grand rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek and Jackson. If a place like Farmington Hills or Novi is selected, it would be easier for people from the West side to come. Food for thought.
I have no issues driving to Novi, Farmington Hills, Novi or Lansing for that matter. When I can go all the way to DC, I can drive anywhere in MI to attend the meeting. The idea behind choosing Troy is that majority of participants need not travel long distance to accomodate one or two members. As of now majority is from Oakland County. If it turns out that majority is from Lansing, Flint, Canton... wherever, I'll drive down there.
There's no need to feel left out if any are from far off places (Lansing etc.) and can't drive down to Troy. You can participate by calling the cell numbers of the participants (if any of you PM me, I can give mine). However, members living nearby need to appear in person (cell-phone participation will not be entertained)
I live in Lansing. However, I am out of town on 10/20. Can we have another option if it is not too much hassle for all of you?
Another note- Troy will be very far for people in Lansing, Grand rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek and Jackson. If a place like Farmington Hills or Novi is selected, it would be easier for people from the West side to come. Food for thought.
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vamsi_poondla
09-04 01:12 PM
We should attend. It matters a lot.. Even uneducated farmers fight for their right. Why should we not show some solidarity and let the nation hear our voice?

irma05
02-21 03:22 PM
I mailed 21 letters ;)
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kumar_77
10-07 08:05 AM
Hello Members ,
Is there any one living in and around Grand Rapids ?? Please mail me
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kumar
Is there any one living in and around Grand Rapids ?? Please mail me
thanks
kumar
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nixstor
07-02 03:04 PM
Looks like the Congressman's (Rep. Lamar Smith) office is getting bogged down by the calls.
I walked around my office and asked every colleague I met to make the call. The last 5 people who called, the person answering the phone rudely asked them to call the local Congressman's office instead of the Representative's office. He did not take any information nor did it look like he was making a note of the call.
Any pointers, information as to what may be happening?
I am not sure about the rude part. All the posts in the 12 pages have actually appreciated the patience of the caller.
Some answers on why you are calling Rep Smith even though you are in a different constituency. Send the first post of this thread as supporting material to those who are going to call. It hardly takes a min to read that post.
(1) Yes, we called our Rep and asked for support
(2) Rep Smith is the ranking member of House Judiciary committee and thats why his support is crucial to these bills
(3) Rep smith championed high skill bills in the past and these are common sense measures that will increase American competitiveness
I walked around my office and asked every colleague I met to make the call. The last 5 people who called, the person answering the phone rudely asked them to call the local Congressman's office instead of the Representative's office. He did not take any information nor did it look like he was making a note of the call.
Any pointers, information as to what may be happening?
I am not sure about the rude part. All the posts in the 12 pages have actually appreciated the patience of the caller.
Some answers on why you are calling Rep Smith even though you are in a different constituency. Send the first post of this thread as supporting material to those who are going to call. It hardly takes a min to read that post.
(1) Yes, we called our Rep and asked for support
(2) Rep Smith is the ranking member of House Judiciary committee and thats why his support is crucial to these bills
(3) Rep smith championed high skill bills in the past and these are common sense measures that will increase American competitiveness

browncow
06-13 03:49 PM
What I am saying is - when dealing with things outside of your home country - you cannot expect or assume fairness to you.
lol, are you saying that an american does not expect to be treated fairly in canada?
or you have accepted racism as a part and parcel of being born an indian?
if so, believe me, you are in the minority.
lol, are you saying that an american does not expect to be treated fairly in canada?
or you have accepted racism as a part and parcel of being born an indian?
if so, believe me, you are in the minority.
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shukla77
09-22 10:50 AM
Hopefully this does not fall under one of your " only"four reasons. Many people had similar reasons.
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Below is post # 1804 by Chandu23
I was banking on bringing my pregnant wife - but now she is doing her night floats in residency and unable to come - but rest assured - she and our little one is fully supportive of this
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Yes, and the only reason I see is LAZINESS, COWARDICE, SELFISHNESS AND ATTITUDE
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Below is post # 1804 by Chandu23
I was banking on bringing my pregnant wife - but now she is doing her night floats in residency and unable to come - but rest assured - she and our little one is fully supportive of this
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Yes, and the only reason I see is LAZINESS, COWARDICE, SELFISHNESS AND ATTITUDE
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Michael chertoff
03-28 08:31 PM
Not sure what you mean here. MC is not angry at me, If anything he is angry at snathan :D
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
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Plainspeak.. I dont get mad at females... You have lots of time and sounds to me you are single. PM me your number we can talk and pass some time.
in case you are male.. still pass me your number.. we can still talk and fight.
No point in getting angry in forum. talk to me face to face.
and for snathan, i am not mad at him i just want to know his PD..
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
Garv Se Bolo Legal Immigrant
Garv Se Bolo Regular (Not Highly) educated Skilled applicant for GC
Garv Se Bolo EB3 I
Plainspeak.. I dont get mad at females... You have lots of time and sounds to me you are single. PM me your number we can talk and pass some time.
in case you are male.. still pass me your number.. we can still talk and fight.
No point in getting angry in forum. talk to me face to face.
and for snathan, i am not mad at him i just want to know his PD..
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kalyan
05-11 09:15 PM
If your planning to go to Court, then gather the names from every body.
I will contribute my buck and names for this.
I will contribute my buck and names for this.
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navyug
06-12 10:16 PM
First - EB2s stop replying posts that were written in frustration and you understand why, They will not affect and take away your GC. Since you are not frustrated you have to start first.
Second - EB3s - Frustration will never bring you anything and you can not move PD faster. Instead capatialize the situation that EB2s are getting GC. How you have to think and focus.
I can give my example. I made network of some who got GC and have some influence in recruiting. After working 9 years for a big Pharma and got layed off, My one buddy got GC long back in EB2 , helped me and received job through him though I have to drive 220miles everyday.
Am I frustrated yes!! More than anybody else here but has to calm down and think positivily.
Hope my post will help you to reduce some frustration.
I can understand the frustration among Eb3s. Honestly I do not want to aggravate their feelings. My only objection was for someone to generalize all Eb2s as being dishonest.
Second - EB3s - Frustration will never bring you anything and you can not move PD faster. Instead capatialize the situation that EB2s are getting GC. How you have to think and focus.
I can give my example. I made network of some who got GC and have some influence in recruiting. After working 9 years for a big Pharma and got layed off, My one buddy got GC long back in EB2 , helped me and received job through him though I have to drive 220miles everyday.
Am I frustrated yes!! More than anybody else here but has to calm down and think positivily.
Hope my post will help you to reduce some frustration.
I can understand the frustration among Eb3s. Honestly I do not want to aggravate their feelings. My only objection was for someone to generalize all Eb2s as being dishonest.
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legal_la
05-10 09:11 PM
Quick question on behalf of my friend. His H1B is being revoked by the present company. His previous employer did not revoke his H1B, can he go back to the previous employer without filing for transfer or should he file for the transfer again?
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coopheal
11-25 03:14 PM
These are good ideas.
If you are already contributing please update your signature to mention your contribution. Otherwise please start contributing $50/100 per month ASAP.
Here is my list. #1 is unprobable till 2009, so may be we can work on 2, 3, 4
1. Need a legislation change (to increase visa numbers).
2. If the above is not possible, recapture unused visa numbers.
3. If 1 & 2 not possible, exempt spouse and children from visa number counts.
4. If 1, 2 & 3 not possible, then atleast get them to disclose country wise backlog data, so that there is no "cheating" in visa bulletins
If you are already contributing please update your signature to mention your contribution. Otherwise please start contributing $50/100 per month ASAP.
Here is my list. #1 is unprobable till 2009, so may be we can work on 2, 3, 4
1. Need a legislation change (to increase visa numbers).
2. If the above is not possible, recapture unused visa numbers.
3. If 1 & 2 not possible, exempt spouse and children from visa number counts.
4. If 1, 2 & 3 not possible, then atleast get them to disclose country wise backlog data, so that there is no "cheating" in visa bulletins
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priderock
05-31 01:23 PM
No. What I am saying is that this is a good amendment that can help us. But if its introduced and voted upon, it will fail to pass in the Senate because this amendment has a H1B exemption and H1B quota increases are very very unpopular and controvertial since last few years.
Therefore the achilles heel (Weak portion that will cause failure) of this good amendment is the H1B quota trick attached at the end. The amendment may pass the senate with a majority vote if it doesnt have H1B quota exemptions in it.
logiclife , you may know more, being close to or part of the core group, about how these processes are going. But from my observation , I think these bills get passed or failed based on lobbying (apart from legislators political considerations) , even though those provisions may not be fair to all. consider why a sweeping change like amnesty(what ever you name it) to illegals is being voted in, while legals are made to stand in line forever.
I think it will have better chances if H1 provisions are included because of a broader industry lobbyists that support H1 program. They do not support GC backlog elimination as much as they love getting more H1s.
Who do you think will push for a bill that has only all good things for EB GC applications ? I am not questioning your reasoning, I just want to know :)
As some one put it, " But for the bad luck, we would not have a luck". This immigration issue is being discussed because of undocumented workers and their group's push.
Therefore the achilles heel (Weak portion that will cause failure) of this good amendment is the H1B quota trick attached at the end. The amendment may pass the senate with a majority vote if it doesnt have H1B quota exemptions in it.
logiclife , you may know more, being close to or part of the core group, about how these processes are going. But from my observation , I think these bills get passed or failed based on lobbying (apart from legislators political considerations) , even though those provisions may not be fair to all. consider why a sweeping change like amnesty(what ever you name it) to illegals is being voted in, while legals are made to stand in line forever.
I think it will have better chances if H1 provisions are included because of a broader industry lobbyists that support H1 program. They do not support GC backlog elimination as much as they love getting more H1s.
Who do you think will push for a bill that has only all good things for EB GC applications ? I am not questioning your reasoning, I just want to know :)
As some one put it, " But for the bad luck, we would not have a luck". This immigration issue is being discussed because of undocumented workers and their group's push.
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go_guy123
02-10 06:46 AM
I am not sure about the statement "There is no corporate support for EB reform.....". Check this link http://www.competeamerica.org/. They seem to have the same agenda as ours (i.e., IV's). Is IV aware (or in collaboration) with them?
competeamerica is just doing lip service to the EB. Their real agenda is more
H1B. When time comes to compromise they will gladly sacrifice EB reform
for more H1B visa (mark my works!!!!!)
competeamerica is just doing lip service to the EB. Their real agenda is more
H1B. When time comes to compromise they will gladly sacrifice EB reform
for more H1B visa (mark my works!!!!!)
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belmontboy
05-29 04:09 PM
They are proving themselves as idiots. Who else has money to fly now a days?
Well, if your travel agent offers a Air France ticket, refuse and tell him the reason why u don't want to fly them.
First of all their tickets are way too pricy. People pay shit load of money and get treated like a dogs?? We have choice no matter where u fly from. Try to avoid these European carriers. Try to fly Asian or Indian carriers.
Air France needs to learn that everybody is a customer, irrespective of their skin color/race. And every customer is entitled to same service as rest of them.
Well, if your travel agent offers a Air France ticket, refuse and tell him the reason why u don't want to fly them.
First of all their tickets are way too pricy. People pay shit load of money and get treated like a dogs?? We have choice no matter where u fly from. Try to avoid these European carriers. Try to fly Asian or Indian carriers.
Air France needs to learn that everybody is a customer, irrespective of their skin color/race. And every customer is entitled to same service as rest of them.
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nat23
06-20 09:33 AM
Ask yourself a question. If you were running a big business - whom would you prefer -- GC Employees or H1-B Employees.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
Well depends on the job I want to get done. New Internatinal graduates come with less salary, more enthusiam, are hardworking and would go out of their way to get some work done.
In addition to that if I have a constant supply of H1Bs why would I want to spend more money on high salary & more perks if I can train newbies in 6 months.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
Well depends on the job I want to get done. New Internatinal graduates come with less salary, more enthusiam, are hardworking and would go out of their way to get some work done.
In addition to that if I have a constant supply of H1Bs why would I want to spend more money on high salary & more perks if I can train newbies in 6 months.
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meridiani.planum
06-27 02:35 AM
Few min back I just got the "Card production ordered" email - Took a total of 28 days
NSC or TSC?
NSC or TSC?
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I think IV will ban him
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yabadaba
07-05 11:14 AM
Oh law reports:
07/05/2007: Definition of I-485 "Filing" and Receipt of June VB Cases in July 2007
Readers are sending us email inquiry whether the USCIS will reject the I-485 application for the June 2007 current cases for them which they post marked and shipped out via US Postal Services or via overnight delivery services which was delivered on July 2, 2006. These cases will also be rejected as under the revised July 2007 Visa Bulletin, entire EB visa numbers will remain unavailable effective July 2, 2007. Since filing of I-485 is not determined by a post mark but by physical receipt of the application, these cases are likely to be rejected as it physically arrived at the Service Center buildings on July 2, 2007 when the unavailability of the EB visa numbers took effect.
If the June application was shipped out in June when their visa number was current and delivered on June 29 or earlier date, the application is considered timely filed unless there were flaws in filing such as missing filing signatures, defective checks, or even missing important initial evidence. These applicants should preserve the overnight delivery tracking certificates and the cancelled checks of filing fees to prove that the applications were timely filed before July 1, 2007. Issuance of hard copy Receipt Notice does not control for the purpose of the proof of "filing."
07/05/2007: Definition of I-485 "Filing" and Receipt of June VB Cases in July 2007
Readers are sending us email inquiry whether the USCIS will reject the I-485 application for the June 2007 current cases for them which they post marked and shipped out via US Postal Services or via overnight delivery services which was delivered on July 2, 2006. These cases will also be rejected as under the revised July 2007 Visa Bulletin, entire EB visa numbers will remain unavailable effective July 2, 2007. Since filing of I-485 is not determined by a post mark but by physical receipt of the application, these cases are likely to be rejected as it physically arrived at the Service Center buildings on July 2, 2007 when the unavailability of the EB visa numbers took effect.
If the June application was shipped out in June when their visa number was current and delivered on June 29 or earlier date, the application is considered timely filed unless there were flaws in filing such as missing filing signatures, defective checks, or even missing important initial evidence. These applicants should preserve the overnight delivery tracking certificates and the cancelled checks of filing fees to prove that the applications were timely filed before July 1, 2007. Issuance of hard copy Receipt Notice does not control for the purpose of the proof of "filing."
pns27
07-21 10:30 AM
Lawsuit will not help you. See AILA lawsuit for Visa Bulletin. USCIS did not even negotiate with AILA and chose to negotitate with IV. So you need to learn from it.
AILA now feels defeated because they could not show themselves as the protector of this community. If you see the lawsuit text by AILF, it clearly asks for money for lawyer fees, but does not asks for moeny for Medical exam and mental agony. So if you are going to trust your lawyers to help you, then good luck.
By the way, your Indian lawyer I dont know the name, sued DOL once and lost.
Secondly, how are you going to pay for the lawsuit? People here dont even want to pay $20 and you will need 20K or more for a lawsuit. Do you think you can raise that much?
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
internet, what you say dos nott make sense.
1) "Lawsuit will not help you" that is what everyone said about July Bulletin. The fear of many lawsuits is what made USCIS ot backoff.
2) "... AILF,it clearly asks for money for lawyer fees,"I would rather trust lawyers on what and what kind compensaton I should ask for rather than people like you.
3) "How are you going to pay"? that is a question for next step, and I dont think you care.
4) "You guys celebrated " I am not in BEC but I don't agree with you, none of BEC guys celebrated, yes some repeated words we said to them.
5) "Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda" is this not on IV agenda? even then this is an immigration cause and there is nothing wrong in some of the(BEC) members opening a thrad, they can fight there fight and use this site.
6)"I do not support your agenda" that your choice, and looks like it the hate that is making you say this.
7) Be careful, you are not out of woods yet, you can also get stuck in an odd scenario where you can be a minority.
internet, Dont be so anti BEC, they are suffring and if they want to fight let them.
I support the BEC fight, guys go for it and fight. This the right time.
AILA now feels defeated because they could not show themselves as the protector of this community. If you see the lawsuit text by AILF, it clearly asks for money for lawyer fees, but does not asks for moeny for Medical exam and mental agony. So if you are going to trust your lawyers to help you, then good luck.
By the way, your Indian lawyer I dont know the name, sued DOL once and lost.
Secondly, how are you going to pay for the lawsuit? People here dont even want to pay $20 and you will need 20K or more for a lawsuit. Do you think you can raise that much?
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
internet, what you say dos nott make sense.
1) "Lawsuit will not help you" that is what everyone said about July Bulletin. The fear of many lawsuits is what made USCIS ot backoff.
2) "... AILF,it clearly asks for money for lawyer fees,"I would rather trust lawyers on what and what kind compensaton I should ask for rather than people like you.
3) "How are you going to pay"? that is a question for next step, and I dont think you care.
4) "You guys celebrated " I am not in BEC but I don't agree with you, none of BEC guys celebrated, yes some repeated words we said to them.
5) "Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda" is this not on IV agenda? even then this is an immigration cause and there is nothing wrong in some of the(BEC) members opening a thrad, they can fight there fight and use this site.
6)"I do not support your agenda" that your choice, and looks like it the hate that is making you say this.
7) Be careful, you are not out of woods yet, you can also get stuck in an odd scenario where you can be a minority.
internet, Dont be so anti BEC, they are suffring and if they want to fight let them.
I support the BEC fight, guys go for it and fight. This the right time.
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